| How Ubu Projex operates,
how Pere Ubu functions.
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|Band Rules and Musical Principles|
| What outsiders need to know:
Once Ubu Always Ubu
Taking Pictures and Photo Pass Protocols
Live Recording Permission, YouTube & Bootlegs
Film Synch Rights and Cover Versions
Sending tapes to the band
| What insiders need to know:
Leaving The Tour
Games & Driving
Tour accounts procedures
Availability & questions of Ubu Time
| What tour managers, promoters & bands need to know:
Rock Rituals: Time & support bands
Some years ago we were touring with a popular young group. They were friends. One day I was talking to the leader about this & that, passing the time, and we got around to the internal workings of our respective bands.
"You guys got a reputation for being democratic, you know, a communal group of equals and all that," I said. "I got this reputation for being an unreasonable dictator. So I suppose you vote on things, hunh?"
"Sure," Mr. F said.
Me: "You're a four piece. What happens when there's a tie?"
Mr. F: "I've got two votes."
Me: "So the only way you get outvoted is if all three of the others stand together?"
Mr. F: "I suppose but if that happens we do what I want anyway."
The project basis of Ubu Projex is described in The Story of Ubu. Pere Ubu doesn't vote unless the outcome will be unanimous. Opinions are polled and if anyone is likely to dissent a vote is deferred and nothing happens. In practice we operate by consensus. This has had disastrous commercial consequences. It means that we sometimes don't do anything. (When the situation becomes intolerable the only solution is to disband and reformat.) Over time a series of precedents has been established. These protocols embody principles that have been accepted and are the basis for future decisions. In this byzantine world even the simplest equation has unimaginable repercussions. On The Penny/Pound Principle (from the English expression, "In for a penny, in for a pound."), for example, hangs everything Ubu.
Band meetings are rare events. They usually have apocalyptic consequences. Hence, the rarity. When a band meeting is called everyone knows there's trouble coming. In Ubu's history there have been only three or four of them. Ubu is organized so as to minimize the need for conversation - no, so as to eliminate as far as possible any conversation. This has evolved for two reasons: (1) David doesn't like talking; and, (2) in the early days it became clear to us that if you feel the need to yak on about something (specifically, art) then odds are you don't know what the hell you're talking about. (This was carried to extremes by a long-time manager who would send emails to his assistant, sitting next to him, along the lines of, "Next time you go down to the kitchen bring me a coffee please.")
David Thomas is the day-to-day Project Director. He proceeds down a course with greater or lessor band consultation, depending on circumstances. As long as more of his decisions are reasonable than fewer then the band allows him to proceed. (Historically, this has also been because he is the only band member ever to be in possession of the Nuclear Button.) One of the Project Director's responsibilities is to see to it that the Rules are maintained.
On tour the Project Director acts as Tour Manager. Other duties are assigned to band members. Guiding principle: the more you do a good job the more responsibility you get assigned. Sometimes a band member will perform several functions. These are:
The Penny/Pound Principle is our E=MC2.
Think about this nightmare world:
The Rules serve to counterbalance the awesome inertia of the organization. Ubu Projex operates on a Silence is Acceptance principle. Members are informed. If there are no objections the Project Director proceeds. This allows for a member to Not Agree while also Not Disagreeing. This is an invaluable organizational tool. Somehow we muddle through.
So, yes, Pere Ubu operates by Rule. And, no, Pere Ubu is NOT a democracy. We are, if anything, a Republic. In Pere Ubu you are responsible for yourself. We are a collection of moderately responsible adults who choose to work together as independent agents, pooling our talents and sharing in the rewards of whatever our talents are worth in the marketplace. We are all independent contractors. No one is an employee. This goes for crew & band & management.
For other miscellaneous Guiding Light principles click here.
Interviews1. David will not do interviews while on tour. All interviews with him must be conducted before the tour begins. "If it doesn't sell tickets then I got more important stuff to do - walls to watch, windows to look out."
2. Other members of the band may be willing to do interviews during the tour. Requests should be addressed to Communex.
3. Ask pithy, straightforward questions - don't try to be clever.
4. Ubu Projex retains copyright to anything a band member may say. So, if we like the answer we will post it or use it however we want.
5. David prefers email interviews. Whatever the format, he will read or copy-and-paste from his prepared 'Book Of Answers.' There is only one answer for any question. If you ask a question that's been asked before then you will get word-for-word the answer to the question he answered before. There is no variance. In email answers feel free to cut from the bottom.
6. For radio interviews, ask the question and get out of his way. If David needs or wants your input he will let you know. "What was I talking about anyway?" is a good clue that he is willing to listen to you now.
7. David usually makes himself available in the venue after a show. He will sign autographs and sit there while you take a selfie with him. Don't ask him questions - he won't answer and will likely be so annoyed he makes a polite excuse and moves somewhere else. He is off-duty after a show. Also be aware that David does not like the frequency range of the human voice and has stopped bothering to listen in that range. Best policy is to smile, move slowly and offer him a banana.
Once Ubu Always UbuPere Ubu is not a community, or a collective. It is not a strictly defined and specific body of people. Once you are in the band you are always in the band, subject to recall. (The caveat is that if you quit under certain circumstances or if you 'cross the line' then a recall is unlikely.) For example, Wayne Kramer is, as far as we're concerned, a member of Pere Ubu because he played in the band as guitarist one night - maybe it was two. He didn't quit. So it's like the boycott of South African goods - no one ever called it off so it's still going on. It's like 'Frank The Storm' here in the UK - no one said it was over so we're now in the 43rd week of Frank The Storm.
Pere Ubu, from the beginning, was meant to be a string of one-off projects, one only coincidentally linked to the next. That was how it was set up in October 1975 when we met at Tim Wright's apartment to decide whether or not we were going to continue as a band.
From time to time the band will be structured in a certain way for specific reasons. Some people will be in, some will be out for a project. Sometimes the budget forces limitations on band size. Sometimes the deciding factor is aesthetic. The Pere Ubu Film Unit is an example. The Pere Ubu Moon Unit is another. Sometimes the deciding factor is simple availability due to scheduling conflicts. And sometimes it is a cabal of the American Federation Of Musicians and faceless government clerks in a small Vermont town.
(There is a corollary - If You're In The Van You're In The Band which means that if you're traveling with us you are subject to the Rules.)
Michele Temple missed out the Cogs tours - people were asking, 'What happened to Michele?' We didn't respond because it's none of your damn business. In any case, she is 'back' for the Coed Jail tour. Keith Moliné, Gagarin and Darryl Boon are still 'in the band' but not on the Coed Jail tour. Why? It's none of your damn business.
Taking Pictures & Photo Pass Protocol
1. We do not grant photo passes. All men are created equal and endowed by Ubu Projex with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of photos of the band. No one individual has any more 'right' to occupy space or have precedence. No individual has any right to obstruct the view or pleasure of any other individual by reason of any sort of imagined privilege.
2. We do not restrict citizens of any particular country from taking pictures for their private use and enjoyment.
3. We do not restrict newspapers, blogs or similar media from taking photos for the purpose of publishing them with reviews or articles, as long as such photos are not then offered for sale.
4. We do not grant blanket license for agencies to sell photos of us. The only license that may be granted must be negotiated with Ubu Projex after the event in writing and then only under the condition that maximum resolution files of the photos are handed over to Ubu Projex for our unrestricted use without any overlays of any kind, including copyright notices.
5. We don't care about flashes as long as any other attendee of the event has no objection. If a citizen does object then it is incumbent on the photographer to ameliorate the situation.
6. If the venue restricts photos or flashes for their own reasons - aesthetic or otherwise - then that is their right. But such restriction must apply across the board - no exception may be granted to 'media elites.'
7. We retain copyright on all images of ourselves without exception. If you photograph us, the image is ours and we will use it however we want.
1. We do not permit the recording of our performances by any audio, visual or or audio-visual means. In rare instances, we may consider archival or other non-commercial recording with prior written approval, contact Communex.
2. We will not consider any recording arrangement that involves a promise to give us a copy of the recording. In forty years, it's never happened. We don't believe you.How do you feel about audience recording for personal home use?
1. We will not give permission for that sort of recording.
I recently had posted the Rocket from the Tombs Jack Slack Lp, on Ebay and was threatened with legal action by your agent for doing so. I purchased this record legally in Canada over 10 years ago and believe I had every right to post and sell this record. I will attach below the emails from your agent . I removed the record for sale to prevent any possible infringement on your rights. Please let me know your position on this matter.
The album you refer to is an illegal bootleg. Regardless of whether or not it's been bought in good faith, there is no such thing as legal ownership of stolen property. Go out and buy a stolen necklace in good faith. See what happens. If someone sells a legal copy of a copyrighted work that is a perfectly sound and normal transaction. It is the foundation of all commerce. There is, however, no such thing as legal ownership of stolen property. There are no circumstances of law anywhere on the planet I dare say that allow for legal ownership of something stolen. Clearly this incident may seem like an unfair situation from your end but, on the other hand, if you're honest about it, you probably knew it was a bootleg when you bought it. A bootleg is stolen property. Of course everyone has bootlegs and we're pretty loose about this when it comes to fans trading bootlegs with each other privately.
On the subject of YouTube... Responses to Fan Enquiries
For the latest see Grocery Police Department page.
What is particularly galling is the law in this matter. As you discovered we own the copyright and any posting of our material violates that copyright unless it is licensed. When we discover a violation we inform YouTube and they promptly remove the material. However, the law is written in such a way that should the same material be posted after a week, or weeks (I'm unsure of the time frame), YouTube is legally permitted to host the new posting until they are AGAIN notified of the violation - even though it may be the same material. You can imagine then that for a small company of artists like ourselves this becomes a matter of constantly policing the site. It becomes a significant waste of time and energy. And it constitutes what I would call a form of harassment. Though not legally. So here we are, two different parties viewing the law from two different angles, both frustrated by the same law.
If you don't like Ronald McDonald and Happy Meals and Special Sauce then you don't have to buy a Big Mac. The McDonalds Corporation, however, is under no obligation to run their affairs so as to please you or your sensibilities. And frankly they'd be nuts to even worry about it.
That record companies choose to promote their products on YouTube is of no concern to us. But, note, they choose. They select exactly what they want to be distributed. No one asked us.
Licenses, cover versions & film synch rights
FILM SYNCH RIGHTS
We will need to see a synopsis of the film and have a brief description of how the song will be used. Contact Communex.
You don't need our permission to record or perform our songs. You do need to pay mechanical royalties on any manufactured copies, and downloads you may have sold. You can do this by paying stupid amounts of money to the Harry Fox Agency or you can pay us directly via PayPal at the following rate:
Number of Songs multiplied by Number of Copies multiplied by $0.105
You must also report the song title, writers and publisher information to the relevant performing rights society of the performance territory.
Please note the following guidelines for in-stores. These are not meant to discourage in-stores, simply to ensure that they're successful as well as being enjoyable for all concerned.
Note that Pere Ubu does not always do in-store performances as a full band.
1. Please remember that all in-store appearances must be approved in advance.
2. Mr Thomas gets nervous when the record store owner / manager offers free cds or merchandise. Should the record store want to make a gift the transaction shall be handled by a third party (the Record Company rep). The third party shall approach Mr Thomas discreetly, describing what gift is offered. Mr Thomas will then okay a formal presentation at which brief, formal speeches of presentation and acceptance are made.
3. The Record Company representative must do the following:
4. The record store MUST NOT play any Pere Ubu recordings for the duration of Mr Thomas' visit. It is simply too embarrassing, draws undue attention to his presence & most importantly forces him to withdraw into a protective shell of weird uncommunicativeness. This is not desirable.
5. Please remember that the first 30 seconds of arrival in-store sets the tone for the entire episode. If Mr Thomas is allowed to slip into an Outcast Lemon Mode you will have an unsatisfactory experience. INTRODUCE HIM. ENCOURAGE CONVERSATION. TAKE UP ANY SLACK. If you know a fan who wants to meet him then by all means introduce them. Mr Thomas prefers civilians. He wants to be approached. He wants to talk in these circumstances since that's what the gig is.
Mr Thomas can be the most charming & exciting personality if very simple steps are taken to avoid awkwardness. Once he gets rolling there are no problems, you can sit back, relax & observe a professional smarming his way into the hearts of all around him. The initial stages, however, are critical. Keep in mind that Mr Thomas undertakes these events as a performance.
MEET & GREETs are not a problem because of the informal nature of the event.
David Thomas's hotel requirement while on the road doing promo & performances of any kind is:
David works hard to make these trips successful. He doesn't get paid any extra for them and he expects to be treated well on the road so the experience is enjoyable and civilized and not unnecessarily tiring.
Please ensure that the Directors of Ubu Projex have the names, phones and faxes of all David's hotels on promo trips at least a week in advance. The fax number is essential.
In general we decline benefit requests unless they are for friends or personal acquaintances. We would never do one for an institution. We donate concert appearances. This allows us to give of our best. We generally decline requests for unreleased tracks. We don't produce out-takes or alternate mixes, nor do we keep back anything of quality that we don't eventually release. Without intending to, such requests, effectively, ask us to donate something inferior only so that our name attracts fans to buy the record. This is an unfair transaction, as far we're concerned, and means that we do not give of our best.
David replies: I don't want to give out opinions. I don't want to be under obligation. I'd rather not hear 8 things that are wonderful than to have to say something nice about one thing that I find detestable. Odds are I won't listen in any case or if I do that I won't remember anything about the experience. I won't return the tape or cd even if you send postage. If you still want to send a tape under these conditions then do so. Don't ask for a response and don't hope for one.
If you "leave the tour" you are responsible for all costs incurred from the point that you leave the tour til the point that you return to the tour. This includes costs incurred that would normally and reasonably be paid by the tour account.
Example A: There are 3 off days and the tour is in Chicago. You decide to visit your mom in St Louis. You are responsible for your own accommodation and travel expenses. Furthermore, if you are late getting back, through no fault of your own, and we miss a show, you are responsible, in theory, for lost revenue and/or penalties.
If you plan ahead with the tour manager and it can be arranged without adding cost to the tour budget then you can be reimbursed for any actual, receipted hotel costs you incurred up to the amount the tour account allocated had you stayed with the tour.
Example B: You decide to stay on in Europe after a tour. The return of your equipment becomes your responsibility and costs incurred beyond what the tour account would expect to pay are your responsibility.
The above notwithstanding, we will still do what we can (within reason!) to help with post tour travel arrangements, the crucial point is that after the end of the tour there is no tour manager and you are therefore responsible for making sure that the arrangements work. Any help we give is on a good intentions basis, meaning we'll try to help but if things screw up there's no comeback on us
Example C: You leave the tour and make arrangements to meet the band in Barcelona. On the way to Barcelona the tour bus loses its brakes crossing the Yugoslav mountains. The gig has to be canceled. You are then responsible for rejoining the tour which has now diverted to Udine. Why? Because if you hadn't left the tour you'd be in Udine with the rest of us.
Example D: You arrange to meet the band in Harwich onboard the ferry to Stockholm. The band is late and misses the ferry. You are on the ferry and YOU are responsible. Why? Because if you hadn't left the tour you'd be with the band driving down to Dover and insanely across Europe in a frantic effort to make the gig.
Read the novel Catch 22 for a full understanding of the principles involved.
Leaving the tour causes anxiety whatever happens and potential loss for the tour if something goes wrong. We will not discourage the activity but it becomes your problem in all facets.
1) Insurance for instruments & personal belongings is the sole responsibility of the individual.
2) When possible, Travel Insurance supplement will be paid based on the rate for a year's cover as available in the UK.
1. All games are based on The Price Is Right rules.
2. All traffic tickets for moving violations are the sole responsibility of the driver. Parking tickets are the sole responsibility of the driver unless he is simply following orders.
Small Town Cop Override: You are driving thru the no man's land between Croatia and Serbia. You are stopped by a Croatian Police road check who insist you passed another vehicle on a bridge which is a very serious offense in Croatia according to the Traffic Code brandished in your face. You look back. There is nothing that a reasonable person would define as a "bridge." You look ahead. You see the UN checkpoint and the fact that this is the last chance they have to punish you for wanting to go to Serbia. Ruling: Driver is not responsible.
Addendum dated 09/08/95...
At 12:32 pm 9/7/95, MR STEVEN A MEHLMAN wrote:
>what are floats?
A float is a chunk of money put into someone's care for the purpose of paying expenses. For example: two vehicles. Tour manager in one, road crew or band member in the other, each has a float to take care of expenses. At the end of a period of time, accounts are settled. Receipts and balance of cash handed over.
>you mentioned cabs, are we really to be reimbursed. for cabs?
If you are instructed to take a cab for the purposes of the tour, then, yes. Personal use for convenience, no.
>what can we be reimbursed. for?
Authorized expenses that involve the function of the tour is the short answer.
A PD protocol question:
Band member travels to a show a few days before show and returns a few days after show, under his/her own steam, as they have friends to stay with in that town. Do we pay them a PD for only the day of the show? Or do we pay them for their travel days, equal to the other band members?
If he's going to the town just because of our show then he should be paid per diems for the working time plus 2 travel days - staying over for tourism or any nonwork reason is irrelevant.
If he's combining the trip with other work then he should be paid ONE travel day per diem and NOT TWO and the cost of his work permit should be split between the two works (though if he wouldn't have got a work permit for his other work then I don't think we should charge him a share of the work permit costs).
As a member of the band or associate, you take on a responsibility not to bring into disrepute Ubu Projex, its music, band members or associates, including the record company or potential promoters/venues. You also take on the responsibility for safeguarding band information that is meant for internal information or use only. Any genuine complaints regarding any part of Ubu Projex or the members thereof should always be addressed privately to those concerned or to management - never broadcast in any form on the internet.
1. Ubu was reformed on a project year basis. (A project year is longer than 12 months.) A project year is determined by an lp lifetime which in practice seems to begin with the actual studio recording (the point at which money comes due from a record company) and end with the last required group work in support of the lp. During a project year a band member keeps himself available for Ubu work. At the end of a project year a member can choose to not re-up.
2. In practice, members consult with the Directors of Ubu Projex & so far as possible mutually agreed schedules are arrived at. It has been clearly stated & accepted that the onus is with the individual member to clear his schedule with the Directors of Ubu Projex before committing to personal work. If necessary, members are left out of sub-projects when scheduling conflicts arise & the promotional or business opportunity available is judged to be too important to pass up.
1. Pere Ubu shows up on time. We expect everyone else to be on time. No, no... wait, we're not anywhere near that reasonable. Pere Ubu shows up ahead of time. If you show up ON TIME you're already late as far as we're concerned.
2. The sole function of an opening act is to start on time and to stop on time. Period. Do NOT book Pere Ubu unless you agree to this. When Pere Ubu is an opening act we start on time, we stop on time, and we don't do an encore. We don't expect to get a soundcheck and we don't expect to get to do a full show. Those are the rules by which rock music functions. Do not try to change them. You are not a musician and you have no rights in this matter. Mr Thomas in particular is very sensitive to time.
NB. If Ubu is appearing in a festival, or in a non-headline capacity, we will NOT do an encore no matter what unless the duly-authorized stage manager tells us face to face. In the past this has led to upset when we have refused to go out again without this specific authorization. We play by the rules beyond the point of sanity. We expect others to do the same.
As for giveaways that's up to you. I never like them cuz I hate giving stuff away so it depends on whether the promotional advantage is worth promoting a welfare-state mentality within the populace of the USA. That's a decision I leave to you... along with its karmic load. Long ago we determined what trivia questions are to be used for Pere Ubu giveaways. Choose one: